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Originally posted by

Josh

I dont know where you got your info but I am a hookah smoker and all of the hookah I buy has 0.5% nicotine - not the 2-4 you suggest.

Its the same for most shisha I buy, 0.05% nicotine. I've been doing some research online into the effects of hookah and am sorry to say that there isn't much aside from this bs about addiction. The only people I know who smoke only do so 1-2 timesa week there is no craving or need for a fix as with cigarette addicts. I would be happy to hear arguments for/against hookah usage but the writer of this article needs to show some damn credibility and actually research a topic before giving out bogus info meant to scare the soft-minded. I challenge ANYONE to find shisha sold in the USA that has 2-4% nicotine, it doesn't exist...

Holly hell. Robin Anderson u just need to take a deep breath and calm down. UR FREAKIN OUT MAN. It seems to me that all u need to do there Robin is kick back on the biggest fluffiest couch u can find and take a long nice rip out of a hookah and Chill Out. By the way Stew, That was a beautiful answer to his first ranting and raving comment. I couldnt have said it any better my self and he still has no intelligent answer in response.
Oh and yes this sight has lots of facts wrong but some right. there are negative side effects but none nearly as bad as cigarettes. Some people smoke up to 2 packs of cigs a day. most hookah smokers smoke a couple times a week. There is no tar in hookah at all and .5% nicotine. personally i buy the .05% nicotine. its not good but its not nearly as bad as cigs.
And besides who wouldnt want to sit on a huge ultra fluffy couch, shotgun a big rip to the girl sitting next to u, and have her lay down on ur lap and tell u ur the most comfortable thing in the world.
I MEAN COMMON IT DOSNT GET BETTER THAN THAT.

Robin, I now wish that Kent State would give you your job back so you would not have all day to whine on student newspaper message boards all day. Get a life, loser.

Originally posted by

Robin Anderson

"According to a 2005 World Health Organization study, although some nicotine is absorbed by the water, smokers can be exposed to enough to cause addiction. Also, a "typical one-hour-long water-pipe smoking session involves inhaling 100 to 200 times the volume of smoke inhaled with a single cigarette."

"But Brown said hookah is not addictive, and although the tobacco used has a small amount of nicotine, it is less than a cigarette. Also, the tobacco carton says zero percent tar."

Hey, Brown...go screw, eh? The tar ain't what's addictive, buttercup!

C'mon Donovan! You know we shouldn't be doing "hookahs" for the same reason we shouldn't "chew" or "dip" as a substitute, eh? It's just one hell of a slippery down-hill slide! As an ex-smoker too(Memorial Day Weekend-1999), we both know that our bodies know what's the most efficient way to get our nicotine, no doubt about it! Nothin like a long...long...long draw on that Winston, is there? Wow, those dam things were only $2.25 a pack when I stopped in 1999.

How much does this "hookah" water-pipe bullshit cost...oh thieving, capitalist pricks who appear to be able to sell same now??? Aw...I hope I didn't make anyone's widdle-biddy-wip quiver, eh?

Originally posted by

Stew

if you don't like it don't smoke it. simple as that! otherwise, leave us happy smokers alone in our hookah bar and outside far, far away from all of you. seriously, please leave us alone already. we're not bothering you anymore. you won. you're taking all of our money and we're really helping society with all these taxes driving up our cigg prices. let's be friends now, ok? there are far more important things to worry about than they 1/7 of the world who enjoys a little smoky relaxation. you can laugh at us while we're all sucking down oxygen tanks in between puffs when we're 80 (if we make it that long.)

Sigh...do you even have an inkling of the burden of the Libertarian philosophy you so glibley propose, Stew? Most true Libertarians would not allow you and your "1/7 of the world" to become a drain on available healthcare resources.

But what the hey...it's a free and accomodating country, right, Stew? Yeah...as long as we don't go Libertarian, eh?

Originally posted by

Stew

if you don't like it don't smoke it. simple as that! otherwise, leave us happy smokers alone in our hookah bar and outside far, far away from all of you. seriously, please leave us alone already. we're not bothering you anymore. you won. you're taking all of our money and we're really helping society with all these taxes driving up our cigg prices. let's be friends now, ok? there are far more important things to worry about than they 1/7 of the world who enjoys a little smoky relaxation. you can laugh at us while we're all sucking down oxygen tanks in between puffs when we're 80 (if we make it that long.)

Drain on health care resources? What about alcoholics and over eaters? What about those unfortunate souls who remain unemployed and contribute nothing to society? There are lots of drains on society's health care resources. The big difference between the ones I mentioned here and smokers is that we actually pay a greater portion of the tax burden with each pack we buy! If the government doesn't want to use that money for health care that's not our problem. I'm still wondering why the cost of nicotine replacement isn't subsidized... seems to me that would be the most logical way to encourage smokers to quit. Increasing taxes and restricted freedoms sure don't seem like a very libertarian thing to do.

Originally posted by

Stew

if you don't like it don't smoke it. simple as that! otherwise, leave us happy smokers alone in our hookah bar and outside far, far away from all of you. seriously, please leave us alone already. we're not bothering you anymore. you won. you're taking all of our money and we're really helping society with all these taxes driving up our cigg prices. let's be friends now, ok? there are far more important things to worry about than they 1/7 of the world who enjoys a little smoky relaxation. you can laugh at us while we're all sucking down oxygen tanks in between puffs when we're 80 (if we make it that long.)

Works for me! I used the Nicoderm Patch system back in 1999 to quit. It didn't cost any more than my weekly allotment of Winstons so what was there to loose, financially?

I have nothing but empathy for anyone who still smokes; it took me 29 years to finally quit...and, no, I'm not a rabid anti-smoker. I just wish folk the best of luck quitting sooner rather than later. In any case, my 'rant' was one of experience from one smoker who was 'sucked' back into the habit by snuff & chew products to another supposedly former smoker; a smoker's body knows the best way to get it's fix of nicotine.

Originally posted by

Stew

if you don't like it don't smoke it. simple as that! otherwise, leave us happy smokers alone in our hookah bar and outside far, far away from all of you. seriously, please leave us alone already. we're not bothering you anymore. you won. you're taking all of our money and we're really helping society with all these taxes driving up our cigg prices. let's be friends now, ok? there are far more important things to worry about than they 1/7 of the world who enjoys a little smoky relaxation. you can laugh at us while we're all sucking down oxygen tanks in between puffs when we're 80 (if we make it that long.)

Drain on health care resources? What about alcoholics and over eaters? What about those unfortunate souls who remain unemployed and contribute nothing to society? There are lots of drains on society's health care resources. The big difference between the ones I mentioned here and smokers is that we actually pay a greater portion of the tax burden with each pack we buy! If the government doesn't want to use that money for health care that's not our problem. I'm still wondering why the cost of nicotine replacement isn't subsidized... seems to me that would be the most logical way to encourage smokers to quit. Increasing taxes and restricted freedoms sure don't seem like a very libertarian thing to do.


Alcoholics? Drink 'til you drop as long as society doesn't have to clean up you mess, eh? Over-eaters/anorexics/bolemics same thing. Unemployed??? Or did you mean to use the 'code word' welfare???

How's about if smokers and the other folk 'of ill repute' were required to post a bond for their future healthcare? I wonder just how much that would cost?

"Nicotine replacement"? Works for me. I used the Nicoderm patch to quit back in 1999; just barely cost me as much as my weekly allotment of Winstons! Best money I ever spent...sigh.