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Originally posted by

Ryan

What an insult it was to hear that the administration at KSU was "ashamed" of the actions of the students, when we were responding to the remarkable police brutality of 115 pound girl being thrown to the ground like a rag doll for an open container offense.

There's an old saying: Believe only half of what you see and none of what you hear. Most times in life; this can be applied in so many stories told from one person to another. This is one of those cases!

I highly doubt you witnessed this girl thrown down yourself from beginning to end...right? With 1000's of students taking pictures, not one captured the girl thrown down. Why? It doesn't seem that it happened because birdman4040 youtube video clearly shows text stating that cop just threw down somebody else. Yet all these supposed witnesses of this girl thrown down all say she was the one that got arrested. The person with the video was there and saw the whole thing and doesn't say anything about that girl thrown down. It just says "this is the same cop that threw someone else down earlier" (sounds like vicious rumor to me, passed on and you all are just gullible to believe everything you hear!)

I see girls getting arrested on the video. The one girl started to run after going toward the cop and yelling something. He grabbed her and she didn't like it. Too freaking bad. What were they getting arrested for? You all act like nobody was allowed to be arrested. How privileged do some of you guys think you are? It's probably the same girl who complained that she got a ticket for rolling a damn stop sign. WAH! Stop trying to pretend you are some sort of victim...meet some REAL victims in this world and then cry and whine because the police were doing their job by protecting the people and property of those not involved in the party. You don't care at all about those people, do you? I'm sure not everyone was participants in the stupidity. Just being in wrong place at the wrong time was enough. Welcome to our justice system. This happens more than most of us would like to admit. But, it's still one of the best justice systems in the world and I'd rather be arrested here than anywhere else, wouldn't you? Not all cops are created equal and not all student partyers are created equal either.

So, the people who are so anti-establishment, u know, against the "man", need to realize their pre-frontal cortex of their brain doesn't develop until sometime in their early twenties. So, this is likely the reason you have the "immature rationale" right now. Just chill.

Originally posted by

Ryan

What an insult it was to hear that the administration at KSU was "ashamed" of the actions of the students, when we were responding to the remarkable police brutality of 115 pound girl being thrown to the ground like a rag doll for an open container offense.


Shame on Kent State University Administration for their offensive and unprofessional handling of this situation, from top to bottom.


It's time for Lester to go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKve1Ysb-Gw&feature=channel_page

Actually, it is on tape...

Originally posted by

:)

Even if this event occurred off campus, KSU Police (University funded?) and hundreds of KSU students were a part of it. That is enough for LL to be involved without question.

What is his excuse exactly? Not his campus, not his problem? He should at least be apologizing to the city of Kent for the disturbances and destruction caused to the city. I mean, it IS the taxpaying dollars of Kent residents that fuel the Kent city police and fire departments.

Well, considering the police pushed the crowd ONTO CAMPUS, the riot did technically involve campus. The students ran directly at Franklin Hall, a newly renovated building with thousands of dollars of equipment inside-- not to mention a group of innocent media students. Shouldn't this concern Lefty?

Originally posted by

Unsympathetic

"Protestors?" What were these kids protesting? Their lack of beer options?

Yea, poor word choice. I would of said drunken partyers, then again that could be generalizing. Maybe just partyers having a good time!

Originally posted by

Val

Both parties acted inappropriately. Yes, it was wrong to fire upon students with rubber bullets before giving them adequate time to respond. But it was also wrong to start bonfires in the middle of the street. No one party deserves all the blame. We should be learning from this together, not pointing fingers.

Well, groups of people are going to have to get together to discuss future partying and college fests. But, to represent the students, who shall that be? The KSU administration, the city of Kent, the police department (both on and off campus) Residents of Kent and students all should have some meetings to work out viable solutions to a problem that needs direction instead of Laissez Faire as it was this year.

I have to wonder, though, if after 2001 Townhouse riots if this issue was resolved once before; and everyone became complacent about it and forgot about what could happen, because I doubt all the same people are involved today that were here in 2001, whether that be residents, police, KSU administration or students.

Originally posted by

No

I wouldn't say anything to a bunch of fools either.
Here's the thing. Cops are going to come in on a big party like College Fest. As we all know, there will be a ton of underaged kids drinking illegally. It is their job to enforce the law. Once they began arresting, students became violent and started to throw things at the police, which is a big offense. This then turned into a riot, and police had to use force before the violence escalated. People are crying being arrested "for nothing"? How about being there and not dispersing like you are told to do, which is against the law. The police did what they had to to disperse the violence and the idiots that attend our university, and I have no sympathy.
Not only this, but none of this happened on campus. Therefore, it is the city of Kent's situation, and the President can choose to deal with it in the morning, as it does not directly concern him.
I think everyone who participated in this riot should be deeply ashamed.

Completely disagree with the last part. It's Lefton's duty to respond to what is going on, even if it's "We don't have all the information. We're looking into it." Not "Leave me alone, I want to watch my moving stories."

Even though it wasn't on the campus, it's safe to assume a majority of those people "rioting" were KSU students. Lefton's their leader, he should comment. It's like if a company's staff goes around town busting up cars and causing destruction - yes, it wasn't on company property. But because they're all tied to the company, it's the boss job to respond to their behavior.

Lefton dropped the ball hard. Instead of looking like a leader he responded like the old man yelling at the kids to get off of his front lawn.

Originally posted by

No

I wouldn't say anything to a bunch of fools either.
Here's the thing. Cops are going to come in on a big party like College Fest. As we all know, there will be a ton of underaged kids drinking illegally. It is their job to enforce the law. Once they began arresting, students became violent and started to throw things at the police, which is a big offense. This then turned into a riot, and police had to use force before the violence escalated. People are crying being arrested "for nothing"? How about being there and not dispersing like you are told to do, which is against the law. The police did what they had to to disperse the violence and the idiots that attend our university, and I have no sympathy.
Not only this, but none of this happened on campus. Therefore, it is the city of Kent's situation, and the President can choose to deal with it in the morning, as it does not directly concern him.
I think everyone who participated in this riot should be deeply ashamed.

Respond he did, regardless of waiting for morning to break. As I stated before, as it was on campus, I do not feel he had to comment late at night or during the AM hours. He probably did not hear the whole story yet, and it is wiser to make a comment after receiving the full story anyway. I am saying, it did not directly concern him enough to wake him up at night.

Originally posted by

Anim Poster

If anyone has any doubts about what happened and why, all they have to do is watch a few of the birdman4040 vids -- great work documenting the scene, btw. Anyone with any understanding of appropriate behavior in a civilized society and the important role played by the men and women of law enforcement knows that when the police are trying to do their jobs, you need to get the hell out of the way and let them do it.

Instead, what do we see here, preserved for all to see? I see a handful of cops surrounded by hordes of students -- most of whom granted aren't causing any trouble -- but enough of whom are chanting, yelling, throwing things, mocking the cops -- I mean, wtf? If anyone ever needed some simple, straightforward evidence of how this generation of young people is apparently incapable of separating reality from an episode of South Park, well, this pretty much fits the bill. Tell you what I couldn't believe -- was seeing one of our "best and brightest," a young woman, clearly aggressively getting into an officer's face. We see this kind of behavior on "Cops" and we laugh at the ignorance and stupidity of the perps; but, when it's a student, the cops are labeled as "brutal." For the record, the cop detained her, but he didn't push her.

And, as may others have pointed out, I didn't see anyone get pushed on any of the vids I saw. And, really -- if the worst thing that happened here was a young person got shoved for being mouthy, that's hardly grounds for protest. People are acting like the cops just showed up to a quiet, orderly, private gathering and started clubbing young people. Get a life. These events took place in a neighborhood, not in the middle of the desert.

AP says kudos to the KPD for exercising restraint.

AP

Great comment.

Originally posted by

Anim Poster

If anyone has any doubts about what happened and why, all they have to do is watch a few of the birdman4040 vids -- great work documenting the scene, btw. Anyone with any understanding of appropriate behavior in a civilized society and the important role played by the men and women of law enforcement knows that when the police are trying to do their jobs, you need to get the hell out of the way and let them do it.

Instead, what do we see here, preserved for all to see? I see a handful of cops surrounded by hordes of students -- most of whom granted aren't causing any trouble -- but enough of whom are chanting, yelling, throwing things, mocking the cops -- I mean, wtf? If anyone ever needed some simple, straightforward evidence of how this generation of young people is apparently incapable of separating reality from an episode of South Park, well, this pretty much fits the bill. Tell you what I couldn't believe -- was seeing one of our "best and brightest," a young woman, clearly aggressively getting into an officer's face. We see this kind of behavior on "Cops" and we laugh at the ignorance and stupidity of the perps; but, when it's a student, the cops are labeled as "brutal." For the record, the cop detained her, but he didn't push her.

And, as may others have pointed out, I didn't see anyone get pushed on any of the vids I saw. And, really -- if the worst thing that happened here was a young person got shoved for being mouthy, that's hardly grounds for protest. People are acting like the cops just showed up to a quiet, orderly, private gathering and started clubbing young people. Get a life. These events took place in a neighborhood, not in the middle of the desert.

AP says kudos to the KPD for exercising restraint.

AP

Definitely a great comment!!

Originally posted by

Anim Poster

If anyone has any doubts about what happened and why, all they have to do is watch a few of the birdman4040 vids -- great work documenting the scene, btw. Anyone with any understanding of appropriate behavior in a civilized society and the important role played by the men and women of law enforcement knows that when the police are trying to do their jobs, you need to get the hell out of the way and let them do it.

Instead, what do we see here, preserved for all to see? I see a handful of cops surrounded by hordes of students -- most of whom granted aren't causing any trouble -- but enough of whom are chanting, yelling, throwing things, mocking the cops -- I mean, wtf? If anyone ever needed some simple, straightforward evidence of how this generation of young people is apparently incapable of separating reality from an episode of South Park, well, this pretty much fits the bill. Tell you what I couldn't believe -- was seeing one of our "best and brightest," a young woman, clearly aggressively getting into an officer's face. We see this kind of behavior on "Cops" and we laugh at the ignorance and stupidity of the perps; but, when it's a student, the cops are labeled as "brutal." For the record, the cop detained her, but he didn't push her.

And, as may others have pointed out, I didn't see anyone get pushed on any of the vids I saw. And, really -- if the worst thing that happened here was a young person got shoved for being mouthy, that's hardly grounds for protest. People are acting like the cops just showed up to a quiet, orderly, private gathering and started clubbing young people. Get a life. These events took place in a neighborhood, not in the middle of the desert.

AP says kudos to the KPD for exercising restraint.

AP

I couldn't agree more! GREAT POST!

[QUOTE id="370a417d-264e-4578-ba82-f6a347e464ba"]Lester Lefton its time for you to leave Kent State University before your reputation is tarnished and a campus wide protest begins.

Lefton's reputation is tarnish. With Lefton sitting at the top of the university, it is KSU's reputation that is being tarnished.

Originally posted by

Brian Fellows

Wow, a woman must have wrote this article because it has drama written all over it. Tell me something jabronies, what the hell did you want Lefton to do? Show up that night with a bullhorn taking charge? You people are idiots.

He simply needed to show leadership and concern....rather than annoyance and inconvenience. He is a leader, he should react in a way that demonstrates this.

Originally posted by

Brian Fellows

Wow, a woman must have wrote this article because it has drama written all over it. Tell me something jabronies, what the hell did you want Lefton to do? Show up that night with a bullhorn taking charge? You people are idiots.

That's a bit sexist don't you think? Speaking of drama, don't you think you're starting a lot of drama? You're whining a bit too much to talk about who's being dramatic and not sound like a troll.

People are actually saying Lefton should have said something along the lines of "There isn't enough information to make a statement," rather than basically saying "It's late, Fuck off!"

Originally posted by

Brian Fellows

Hey Kyber,

Why don't you get back to the kitchen and make yourself useful. Or better yet, go do some laundry and then after that the bathroom floor needs a good scrubbing.

As for Lefton, he is not your daddy. Why do you have to be so critical of a dude's comments when nothing he says is going to matter anyway? NEWSFLASH JACKASS, NO ONE CARES WHAT LEFTON HAS TO SAY ABOUT SOME DRUNK RETARDS INCITING A RIOT.

You are indeed a sexist and a reactionary.

Please leave the planet earth immediately.

Down with Lefton!

Down with Sexism!

POSTED BY A MALE COMMUNIST: [QUOTE You are indeed a sexist and a reactionary.

Please leave the planet earth immediately.

Down with Lefton!

Down with Sexism!
QUOTE]

I never realized communism was good for the female gender. Can you elaborate on this a little?