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Sarah Palin: Ideal veep or unsuitable mother?

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For Sarah Palin, the perfect position has become John McCain's running mate....

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Michael

posted 9/03/08 @ 11:31 AM EST

Another horrible opinion article in the DKS. Something's never change.

Do read a different perspective from someone who actually did some research read this one from the NY post.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09032008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/a_time_warped_sexist_assault_127183.htm

Jordan

posted 9/03/08 @ 12:57 PM EST

Originally posted by

Michael

Another horrible opinion article in the DKS. Something's never change.

Do read a different perspective from someone who actually did some research read this one from the NY post.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09032008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/a_time_warped_sexist_assault_127183.htm



Apparently "something's" do change... like the spelling of "some things."

This article makes a good point: How can Palin hope to be a new mother, new grandmother, and Vice President all at the same time? If she succeeds in one role, her other roles will likely suffer.

We HATE You, Sarah Palin

posted 9/03/08 @ 5:24 PM EST

Where does she get off thinking she can be vice president of the United States? Up against the one million years in the Senate her opponent, Joe Biden, has logged in between expensive rides at taxpayer expense on the Acela, what can she offer? Mayor of a town of six people and ten caribou [sneer]? Miss Congeniality [sneer, sneer]? Illegitimate-child baby-grandma [sneer, sneer, sneer]? Poster chick for "family values" [sneer, sneer, sneer, sneer]?

Sorry, I'm running out of sneers.

But, seriously, just look at the negatives: she's a popular first-term governor, she's a woman, she's happily married, she has five kids, one of them with Down's syndrome, she's a maverick, she's from way beyond the Beltway, she's taken on both the Republican Party and Big Oil, she shoots automatic weapons, she can kill a moose with a butter knife and fillet a sea lion with a smile, her husband's a roustabout Eskimo snowmobile champ, she's a hockey mom, she was Miss Wasilla, she looks like she should be playing Cecily, the saucy librarian, in Tom Stoppard's Travesties, and she doesn't wear pantsuits. Heck, she hasn't even appeared yet on Meet the Press! I mean, who in his right mind would vote for her?

Sure, if she were one of ours, not only would we have nominated her by acclamation, since she fulfills every trope of feminism except for her unfortunate and inexplicable opposition to murdering unborn children, we would also have made at least two TV movies about her life, celebrating her choice to have her fifth child and the announcement yesterday that her 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, is pregnant and is going to marry the teenage father of her child. That's the kind of heartwarming, inclusive, empowering story we love -- she's like Juno come to life as Juneau, set in Mystery, Alaska.

But she's not a Democrat, which despite her va-va-va-voom appearance, means she's not really a woman, which is one of the reasons we've spent the past four days since McCain unveiled her trying to tear her limb from limb. Just because she's the governor of a state sandwiched between two obscure and unimportant countries, Canada and Russia, and spent more time in her first five minutes visiting American troops in Iraq than Evita Barry did during his entire Rainbow Tour, what could she possibly know about foreign policy? It's not like she's John Edwards or something.

So that's why we're having our Wellstone Funeral Moment at the moment. We mean well; we promised ourselves we wouldn't go over the top with our outright loathing of the Neanderthals who preach "Christian" values while practicing Wiccanism and child sacrifice and who hate black people and gay people and want to destroy the environment just because they can, and want to amass more money than even John Kerry or Jon Corzine or Herb Kohl or Jay Rockefeller or Dianne Feinstein -- the five richest senators -- or Ted Kennedy or John Edwards or Nancy Pelosi have. That, usually, is the Kos Kidz's job. Along with speculating exactly how Bush got from My Pet Goat to planting the depth charges that blew up the levees in New Orleans.

But sometimes the mask slips and you can see -- whoops! -- how much we hate you. Normally we're against hate in all its forms, and embrace tolerance as one of our defining moral attributes. But when it comes to you conservatives, well, with the best will in the world, we just can't tolerate you. You're elitist, you're judgmental, you're hypocritical, and we know that deep down you hate us even more than we hate you. Therefore, by any means necessary, we will defeat you this fall. Voter fraud, "walking around" money, legions of lawyers, as many recounts as it takes -- bring it on!

Because we need to take back our country. We need to take it back from fascists like George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, and give it back to its rightful proprietors, patriots like Henry Wallace, Sidney Hillman, Norman Thomas, Gus Hall, Karl Marx, Leon Trotsky, Joseph Stalin, Saul Alinsky, William Kunstler, Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, David Dellinger, Tom Hayden, Bobby Seale, and, yes, my guy, the Talking Parrot, you know who.

And Sarah Marshall Palin stands in the way of all that. After we sent Bill n' Hill packing with their twin gold watches in Denver, we thought we had a clear playing field. The sunshine of the uplands was ours. Mother Gaia had opened wide her arms to embrace us, shunning the Orcs and the Uruk-hai of the Anti-Slavery, Anti-Segregation, Anti-Secularism, Anti-Sedition and Anti-Surrender Party. We were going up against Bob Dole and Jack Kemp, Herbert Hoover and Whoever, Daddy Bush and Dan Quayle, Gerald R. Ford and, well, Bob Dole.

Piece of cake, walk on the beach, a Renaissance Weekend in a non-denominational heaven for atheists. Until Sarah Marshall Palin showed up, bringing with her 10 million bucks for the bad guys in three days, a level of enthusiasm not seen since Ronnie was a pup, and a clear shot to Republican dominance with her and Bobby Jindal and whatever seduced and corrupted minority group is coming next for eons to come.

So that's why we hate you, Sarah Marshall Palin. We hate you because you remind the other side of their wives, their girlfriends, their daughters, and make them want to fight for you against our sneers and our smears. We hate you because you're smart and accomplished and didn't make your bones on the back of Monica Lewinsky. We hate you because you've made us forget that our last two candidates for vice president were Joe Lieberman and John Edwards, whoever they were.

We hate you because you're smart and beautiful and we wish we had women like you on our side.

We hate you.

Robin Anderson

posted 9/07/08 @ 9:29 PM EST

Originally posted by

We HATE You, Sarah Palin

Where does she get off thinking she can be vice president of the United States? Up against the one million years in the Senate her opponent, Joe Biden, has logged in between expensive rides at taxpayer expense on the Acela, what can she offer? Mayor of a town of six people and ten caribou [sneer]? Miss Congeniality [sneer, sneer]? Illegitimate-child baby-grandma [sneer, sneer, sneer]? Poster chick for "family values" [sneer, sneer, sneer, sneer]?

Sorry, I'm running out of sneers.

But, seriously, just look at the negatives: she's a popular first-term governor, she's a woman, she's happily married, she has five kids, one of them with Down's syndrome, she's a maverick, she's from way beyond the Beltway, she's taken on both the Republican Party and Big Oil, she shoots automatic weapons, she can kill a moose with a butter knife and fillet a sea lion with a smile, her husband's a roustabout Eskimo snowmobile champ, she's a hockey mom, she was Miss Wasilla, she looks like she should be playing Cecily, the saucy librarian, in Tom Stoppard's Travesties, and she doesn't wear pantsuits. Heck, she hasn't even appeared yet on Meet the Press! I mean, who in his right mind would vote for her?

Sure, if she were one of ours, not only would we have nominated her by acclamation, since she fulfills every trope of feminism except for her unfortunate and inexplicable opposition to murdering unborn children, we would also have made at least two TV movies about her life, celebrating her choice to have her fifth child and the announcement yesterday that her 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, is pregnant and is going to marry the teenage father of her child. That's the kind of heartwarming, inclusive, empowering story we love -- she's like Juno come to life as Juneau, set in Mystery, Alaska.

But she's not a Democrat, which despite her va-va-va-voom appearance, means she's not really a woman, which is one of the reasons we've spent the past four days since McCain unveiled her trying to tear her limb from limb. Just because she's the governor of a state sandwiched between two obscure and unimportant countries, Canada and Russia, and spent more time in her first five minutes visiting American troops in Iraq than Evita Barry did during his entire Rainbow Tour, what could she possibly know about foreign policy? It's not like she's John Edwards or something.

So that's why we're having our Wellstone Funeral Moment at the moment. We mean well; we promised ourselves we wouldn't go over the top with our outright loathing of the Neanderthals who preach "Christian" values while practicing Wiccanism and child sacrifice and who hate black people and gay people and want to destroy the environment just because they can, and want to amass more money than even John Kerry or Jon Corzine or Herb Kohl or Jay Rockefeller or Dianne Feinstein -- the five richest senators -- or Ted Kennedy or John Edwards or Nancy Pelosi have. That, usually, is the Kos Kidz's job. Along with speculating exactly how Bush got from My Pet Goat to planting the depth charges that blew up the levees in New Orleans.

But sometimes the mask slips and you can see -- whoops! -- how much we hate you. Normally we're against hate in all its forms, and embrace tolerance as one of our defining moral attributes. But when it comes to you conservatives, well, with the best will in the world, we just can't tolerate you. You're elitist, you're judgmental, you're hypocritical, and we know that deep down you hate us even more than we hate you. Therefore, by any means necessary, we will defeat you this fall. Voter fraud, "walking around" money, legions of lawyers, as many recounts as it takes -- bring it on!

Because we need to take back our country. We need to take it back from fascists like George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, and give it back to its rightful proprietors, patriots like Henry Wallace, Sidney Hillman, Norman Thomas, Gus Hall, Karl Marx, Leon Trotsky, Joseph Stalin, Saul Alinsky, William Kunstler, Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, David Dellinger, Tom Hayden, Bobby Seale, and, yes, my guy, the Talking Parrot, you know who.

And Sarah Marshall Palin stands in the way of all that. After we sent Bill n' Hill packing with their twin gold watches in Denver, we thought we had a clear playing field. The sunshine of the uplands was ours. Mother Gaia had opened wide her arms to embrace us, shunning the Orcs and the Uruk-hai of the Anti-Slavery, Anti-Segregation, Anti-Secularism, Anti-Sedition and Anti-Surrender Party. We were going up against Bob Dole and Jack Kemp, Herbert Hoover and Whoever, Daddy Bush and Dan Quayle, Gerald R. Ford and, well, Bob Dole.

Piece of cake, walk on the beach, a Renaissance Weekend in a non-denominational heaven for atheists. Until Sarah Marshall Palin showed up, bringing with her 10 million bucks for the bad guys in three days, a level of enthusiasm not seen since Ronnie was a pup, and a clear shot to Republican dominance with her and Bobby Jindal and whatever seduced and corrupted minority group is coming next for eons to come.

So that's why we hate you, Sarah Marshall Palin. We hate you because you remind the other side of their wives, their girlfriends, their daughters, and make them want to fight for you against our sneers and our smears. We hate you because you're smart and accomplished and didn't make your bones on the back of Monica Lewinsky. We hate you because you've made us forget that our last two candidates for vice president were Joe Lieberman and John Edwards, whoever they were.

We hate you because you're smart and beautiful and we wish we had women like you on our side.

We hate you.




Sigh...what a long-winded bunch of bull-shit, eh, buttercup?

Ms. Palin and the Pope both can kiss my ass when it comes to their "abstinence-only" policy for teaching OTHER FOLKS KIDS about birth control. History, both world and her own family, has proved that such dogma, from whatever political/religious extremes, fails miserably.

Now, bunky, word! George jr. barely got elected, either time, so don't even mention him in the same breath as George Washington or Ronald Regan, eh? In fact, George jr. couldn't even ralley his own Republican-controlled congress to pass legislation reforming SSI, Overtime Regulations, or to begin drilling for off-shore oil back when it would have mattered...who'd have thunk it, eh?

At least Bush jr. left himself an out...blame faulty British intelligence, which was more than Josehp Goebbels did. Otherwise, the drumbeat was still the same...

..."According to German wartime media, it was German citizens who were targeted for extinction by a vast international conspiracy. Leading the assault was an insidious, belligerent Jewish clique, so crafty and powerful that it managed to manipulate the actions of Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin. Hitler portrayed the Holocaust as a defensive act, a necessary move to destroy the Jews before they destroyed Germany."

You got a goose-step to go with that sneer, buttercup???

Andrew P

posted 9/03/08 @ 11:44 PM EST

How can Palin juggle being a mother, soon to be grandmother and VP all at the same time? Really, are you serious? If that's the case, Barack Obama should not be running for President. How is he going to juggle being a husband and parent to two young girls besides being president?

And so Palin's daughter is pregnant...is she the only 17 year old that ever got knocked up with a baby out of wedlock? According to recent reports, apparently she must be.

This is also another sign the DKS is going downhill at breakneck speeds.

Robin Anderson

posted 9/07/08 @ 8:58 PM EST

Originally posted by

Andrew P

How can Palin juggle being a mother, soon to be grandmother and VP all at the same time? Really, are you serious? If that's the case, Barack Obama should not be running for President. How is he going to juggle being a husband and parent to two young girls besides being president?

And so Palin's daughter is pregnant...is she the only 17 year old that ever got knocked up with a baby out of wedlock? According to recent reports, apparently she must be.

This is also another sign the DKS is going downhill at breakneck speeds.


Hm...do you think the DKS is the liberal stooge of the Liberal Left that's been running KSU since, like, forever, man? Or...OMG! You don't think the born again conservatives, in the guise of the College Republicans, have somehow took over the main Campus, do you? Maybe they snuck in from Ashtabula, eh?

Um...knock-knock...is anybody there?

FiftySomethingSister

posted 9/04/08 @ 2:14 PM EST

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrG8w4bb3kg

Listen to the enclosed audio & video of REPUBLICAN talking heads caught talking about the Palin pick as "political BS" and a "gimmick" when the didn't think the tape was running. These remarks are from McCain's former campaign manager and Peggy Noonan, their number one speech writer. So, when the REPUBLICAN talking heads are not on TV, they agree with Sarah Steimer.

Additionally, when asked about Govenor Palin's qualifications to be Vice President, the REPUBLICAN head of the Alaskan Senate responded " She's not even qualified to be the Govenor of Alasks." The REPUBLICAN head of the Alaksan House indicated Govenor Palin's qualifications were that she was "Over 35 years of age and a US citizen."

So, influential members of her own party don't even buy the Sarah Palin for VP gimmick. In the end, most women voters won't either.

Robin Anderson

posted 9/07/08 @ 8:50 PM EST

Originally posted by

FiftySomethingSister

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrG8w4bb3kg

Listen to the enclosed audio & video of REPUBLICAN talking heads caught talking about the Palin pick as "political BS" and a "gimmick" when the didn't think the tape was running. These remarks are from McCain's former campaign manager and Peggy Noonan, their number one speech writer. So, when the REPUBLICAN talking heads are not on TV, they agree with Sarah Steimer.

Additionally, when asked about Govenor Palin's qualifications to be Vice President, the REPUBLICAN head of the Alaskan Senate responded " She's not even qualified to be the Govenor of Alasks." The REPUBLICAN head of the Alaksan House indicated Govenor Palin's qualifications were that she was "Over 35 years of age and a US citizen."

So, influential members of her own party don't even buy the Sarah Palin for VP gimmick. In the end, most women voters won't either.


Yo..."FiftySomethingSister", aka Daffy-Old-Broad!

You do know just how much your unverifiable YouTube videos are worth, eh? Um...why don't you go back to counting your friends?

Mary Jo

posted 9/05/08 @ 8:58 AM EST

I applaud Sarah Palin and John McCain (that doesn't mean I will vote for them). The reason I say that, is because she does represent the American woman, like it or not. Today, an American woman has to work to help support her family in many instances. Whether you are a waitress working 3 jobs for tips and raising babies; or a corporate lawyer; or a registered nurse; or any number of careers, the reality is very clear in our society that mothers work and families suffer.

In reality, there are many unwed and divorced mothers in our country. She, of all people, will have the understanding of the more common issues regarding families in America.

I, as a mother myself, struggled. I have failed as a mother but in some instances, I have done well. I love my children who are now 19 and 21. I can only pray that I have helped to equip them with the ability to get through this life successfully. Success not necessarily defined in a financial sense, but in a humanity sense.

Robin Anderson

posted 9/07/08 @ 8:42 PM EST

Originally posted by

Mary Jo

I applaud Sarah Palin and John McCain (that doesn't mean I will vote for them). The reason I say that, is because she does represent the American woman, like it or not. Today, an American woman has to work to help support her family in many instances. Whether you are a waitress working 3 jobs for tips and raising babies; or a corporate lawyer; or a registered nurse; or any number of careers, the reality is very clear in our society that mothers work and families suffer.

In reality, there are many unwed and divorced mothers in our country. She, of all people, will have the understanding of the more common issues regarding families in America.

I, as a mother myself, struggled. I have failed as a mother but in some instances, I have done well. I love my children who are now 19 and 21. I can only pray that I have helped to equip them with the ability to get through this life successfully. Success not necessarily defined in a financial sense, but in a humanity sense.



Aw...gawd...excuse me while I projectile vomit!

Ms. Palin doesn't represent the American woman any more than the Pope does! They can both take their "abstinance only" sex education and stick it where the sun don't shine! And her and the Chinese can do likewise with their desired cencorship of the Internet.

Her economic situation in Alaska has always been better than that available to most women in the contiguous 48 states and that goes from the availability and level of welfare benefits in Alaska to any of the varried private job opportunities available to the limited population.

Her husband has(had) a cushy job in the oil industry, got bored and tried to "stretch his wings" with some extremist political organization that was a proponent of Alaska succeeding from the Union! At least they both had the economic leisure of becoming involved with some of the fringe elements of the local politics!

Ms. Palin has every right to participate in our Nation's politics and should be commended for doing such in addition to being a wife and a mother...OF HER OWN FAMILY!

Nuff said.

Mary Jo

posted 9/09/08 @ 7:11 PM EST

"Aw...gawd...excuse me while I projectile vomit!

Ms. Palin doesn't represent the American woman any more than the Pope does! They can both take their "abstinance only" sex education and stick it where the sun don't shine! And her and the Chinese can do likewise with their desired cencorship of the Internet.

Her economic situation in Alaska has always been better than that available to most women in the contiguous 48 states and that goes from the availability and level of welfare benefits in Alaska to any of the varried private job opportunities available to the limited population.

Her husband has(had) a cushy job in the oil industry, got bored and tried to "stretch his wings" with some extremist political organization that was a proponent of Alaska succeeding from the Union! At least they both had the economic leisure of becoming involved with some of the fringe elements of the local politics!

Ms. Palin has every right to participate in our Nation's politics and should be commended for doing such in addition to being a wife and a mother...OF HER OWN FAMILY!

Nuff said."

Well, Robin, you may want to see a doctor for what is ailing you.

I don't want nor need an outside person (sex ed teacher) to give my children their views on the subject of sex. I don't agree with either the abstinence or liberal approach. Neither works as far as I am concerned. That is an issue that belongs to the parents of the children.

As far as the Chinese censorhip of the internet (where that came from is beyond me), American companies and government are trying to control our access as well. Since you live in America, I suggest you may want to be concerned with the issue of net neutrality.

As for Palin's economic self substance, there are as many mothers who don't have to work, that do; as there are mothers who just plain have to work, period. So, whether she has to work or just desires to work makes no difference, she will better understand the issues surrounding the vast majority of our country's families. THAT was my point.

Perhaps you are not a mother and don't understand the real issues that surround raising a family. It's just common sense, that you have to experience something first hand to really understand it. She is experiencing it first hand. At least we do agree on the fact that she should be commended.

Robin Anderson

posted 9/10/08 @ 12:32 PM EST

Originally posted by

Mary Jo

I applaud Sarah Palin and John McCain (that doesn't mean I will vote for them). The reason I say that, is because she does represent the American woman, like it or not. Today, an American woman has to work to help support her family in many instances. Whether you are a waitress working 3 jobs for tips and raising babies; or a corporate lawyer; or a registered nurse; or any number of careers, the reality is very clear in our society that mothers work and families suffer.

In reality, there are many unwed and divorced mothers in our country. She, of all people, will have the understanding of the more common issues regarding families in America.

I, as a mother myself, struggled. I have failed as a mother but in some instances, I have done well. I love my children who are now 19 and 21. I can only pray that I have helped to equip them with the ability to get through this life successfully. Success not necessarily defined in a financial sense, but in a humanity sense.


Aw...get off your elitist and feminist high horse, eh, sweet-pea? I'm a man who "keeps it in his pants" cause I want to ensure there's no accidents, eh? Now, that being said...

Governor Palin is absolutely free to seek whatever professional/personal satisfaciton she so desires through working outside the home; much like my Sister who has always had to work at least two jobs(house cleaning and Circle-K) throughout her life! Further, I have only admiration for Governor Palin for her decision to accept one of God's angels into her life, instead of sending it packing!

Now, read my lips! Both the Gov and the Pope can kiss my ass if they think they've got any right to mandate an "abstinance-only" concept toward any adult relationship between married couples let alone our society's children! Governor Palin's family is already having to deal with the deficiencies of such a dogma! That's SOCIAL POLICY AS OPPOSED TO PERSONAL RELIGIOUS CONVICTION, EH, BABS? Further, Governor Palin can kiss my ass if she thinks God wants us to scourge the country of Iraq because George jr. relied on faulty British intelligence(?)!

Now, if you want to get into a serous discussion about the elimination of terrorists from the face of the earth, you don't really want to talk to such a "God-fearing woman", do you? Why not bring it to true heathens like myself? There are many of us who have great aspirations of being "the last wolf standing" and have a much greater grasp of the realities of life than some quaint Alaskan "pit-bull"...gawd!

Please feel free to let us know when her republican handlers will let her engage in a true, public debate, eh?

Robin Anderson

posted 9/10/08 @ 12:40 PM EST

Originally posted by

Mary Jo

I applaud Sarah Palin and John McCain (that doesn't mean I will vote for them). The reason I say that, is because she does represent the American woman, like it or not. Today, an American woman has to work to help support her family in many instances. Whether you are a waitress working 3 jobs for tips and raising babies; or a corporate lawyer; or a registered nurse; or any number of careers, the reality is very clear in our society that mothers work and families suffer.

In reality, there are many unwed and divorced mothers in our country. She, of all people, will have the understanding of the more common issues regarding families in America.

I, as a mother myself, struggled. I have failed as a mother but in some instances, I have done well. I love my children who are now 19 and 21. I can only pray that I have helped to equip them with the ability to get through this life successfully. Success not necessarily defined in a financial sense, but in a humanity sense.



Um...fyi...ma'am???

The City of Cuyahoga Falls and many other localities have been front-runners in the employ of E-Bay to try to sell excess government commodities...all devoid of any political-campaigning bs, eh?

Oh, by the way, did you see were Gov Palin was unable to "sell the governor's jet" over the internet? I wonder why she didn't mention that at the big, bad, republican convention, eh?

Mary Jo

posted 9/10/08 @ 3:10 PM EST

Posted by Robin Anderson "Aw...get off your elitist and feminist high horse, eh, sweet-pea? I'm a man who "keeps it in his pants" cause I want to ensure there's no accidents, eh? Now, that being said...

Governor Palin is absolutely free to seek whatever professional/personal satisfaciton she so desires through working outside the home; much like my Sister who has always had to work at least two jobs(house cleaning and Circle-K) throughout her life! Further, I have only admiration for Governor Palin for her decision to accept one of God's angels into her life, instead of sending it packing!

Now, read my lips! Both the Gov and the Pope can kiss my ass if they think they've got any right to mandate an "abstinance-only" concept toward any adult relationship between married couples let alone our society's children! Governor Palin's family is already having to deal with the deficiencies of such a dogma! That's SOCIAL POLICY AS OPPOSED TO PERSONAL RELIGIOUS CONVICTION, EH, BABS?"

Sorry there Robin, I thought you were female! And, I can't help but be elitist or feminist with regards to my natural born gender that causes me to be of a feminine nature. I am a woman and definitely have a strong feminine influence!! What can I say??

Thanks for the endearing terms such as sweet pea and bab[e]s! How sweet of you.

It's good to hear you have personal responsibility regarding reproduction. We aren't on different sides regarding the Abstinence Issue. But, I also am not for ANY sexual education in our school except that which goes with anatomy of the reproductive system. The biases of any other part of sexual education can all be sent into the garbage. There are an equal number of teenagers who get pregnant who were taught on both sides of the coin. None of it works. It is not an educational issue; that is a parent's, family, friend, and/or community issue. So, whatever political issue surrounds this subject, whether from a republican or democratic viewpoint, I don't agree with any of it. That is for Mom and Dad to decide, not Teachers, Congress or the Pope!!

I'll tell you who I like the best---RON PAUL. I don't agree with everything the man says but I want to see change in Washington. I don't see any REAL changes from the current roster of candidates.

Robin Anderson

posted 9/11/08 @ 7:20 PM EST

Originally posted by

Mary Jo

I applaud Sarah Palin and John McCain (that doesn't mean I will vote for them). The reason I say that, is because she does represent the American woman, like it or not. Today, an American woman has to work to help support her family in many instances. Whether you are a waitress working 3 jobs for tips and raising babies; or a corporate lawyer; or a registered nurse; or any number of careers, the reality is very clear in our society that mothers work and families suffer.

In reality, there are many unwed and divorced mothers in our country. She, of all people, will have the understanding of the more common issues regarding families in America.

I, as a mother myself, struggled. I have failed as a mother but in some instances, I have done well. I love my children who are now 19 and 21. I can only pray that I have helped to equip them with the ability to get through this life successfully. Success not necessarily defined in a financial sense, but in a humanity sense.


I have no problem with either Ron Paul or the Libertarians as both would respect my Constitutional Right to Freedom of Speech up to and including being "rude and crude"; thank you for your patience, ma'am!

Now, Gov. Palin is on record as to what she believes are approriate "missions from God"? No thanks, that's not my God. So, let's stay on the secular side of the debate, shall we?

Mary Jo

posted 9/12/08 @ 12:09 AM EST

Originally posted by

Mary Jo

I applaud Sarah Palin and John McCain (that doesn't mean I will vote for them). The reason I say that, is because she does represent the American woman, like it or not. Today, an American woman has to work to help support her family in many instances. Whether you are a waitress working 3 jobs for tips and raising babies; or a corporate lawyer; or a registered nurse; or any number of careers, the reality is very clear in our society that mothers work and families suffer.

In reality, there are many unwed and divorced mothers in our country. She, of all people, will have the understanding of the more common issues regarding families in America.

I, as a mother myself, struggled. I have failed as a mother but in some instances, I have done well. I love my children who are now 19 and 21. I can only pray that I have helped to equip them with the ability to get through this life successfully. Success not necessarily defined in a financial sense, but in a humanity sense.


Well, good then, we agree on something else. You are welcome for the patience, Sir Robin. You sound like you have a British flair about you. Irish maybe? Or perhaps just sarcasm to the extreme??

Secularism. Hmmmm...well, I believe in separation of church and state; I don't believe in other people thinking they know how God judges everyone else(He gave us free will and what we do with that is our decision to make) I don't believe in taking the word God out of our money; I don't believe in taking the Ten Commandments out of courthouses; I don't believe in taking the word God out of our Pledge of Allegence; I do believe in silent prayer in schools; I don't believe the atheists have all the rights and Christians or other religions have none; Well, is that secular enough for you? These things are our history and foundation of this country and they do belong in our culture.

Travis

posted 9/06/08 @ 4:21 PM EST

This is a horrible HORRIBLE article!
Would ANYONE ask Obama if he needs to spend more time with his two daughters? No, no one has yet to ask him that. This is the most sexist article I have seen in the DKS and I am asking that the editors condem it! Horrible.

Robin Anderson

posted 9/07/08 @ 8:15 PM EST

Originally posted by

Travis

This is a horrible HORRIBLE article!
Would ANYONE ask Obama if he needs to spend more time with his two daughters? No, no one has yet to ask him that. This is the most sexist article I have seen in the DKS and I am asking that the editors condem it! Horrible.


Yo...Travis!

It's not a "news article" you're responding to, but rather an "opinion piece", eh? And you hit the nail on the head with your rebuttal!

Now, let's just sit back and see if certain folk really are that wrong-headed or is this brogh-ha-ha merely some misdirection by the Repubs so's the press will play nicey-nicey with miss pit-bull?

Michelle

posted 9/11/08 @ 4:08 PM EST

I think it is easy to say that you would question a male candidate in the same way, when you are not in the position to do so. Did you ever stop to think that the only reason these issues have come to light is because she is a woman? How many former male presidents had critical family issues that we don't know about?

Furthermore, I am sick of people assuming that John McCain is likely to die in office, discrediting him as a candidate. Talk about discrimination!

I am a proud liberal feminist and I am ashamed of the hypocrisy that is encapsulating our party. Let's talk about what they stand for and stop giving Conservatives good reasons to dismiss us.

Robin Anderson

posted 9/11/08 @ 7:34 PM EST

Huh? Wah??

Where, besides on any internet blog, have you ever heard Governor Palin asked such "sexist" questions as to whether or not she should be "barefoot and pregnant at home" instead of serving as Vice-president? If she had been asked such an assinine question by any legitimate reporter...that means TMZ excluded...why didn't she answer a-la Don Rumsfeld's...
..."That was one butt-ignorant question, next!"

That's about all he was good for!!!

Ditto the worry about Senator McCain dying in office! Nothing legitimate to the concern.

CAN YOU SPELL REPUBLICAN SPIN DOCTORS???

Michelle

posted 9/11/08 @ 8:22 PM EST

OH, I'm not talking about the media or politicians. I hear these things amongst my friends. I hear these things amongst co workers. My mother even! I read it in the Kent Stater and other newspapers. Its the ordinary people like you and I, the voters, who are asking these questions of her. People we put in high places don't really matter. They are just standing on street corners with their fingers in the air, trying to figure out which way to go by the direction of the wind. And we are the wind. So, maybe you don't take the bloggers (and the like) seriously, but I surely do.

Robin Anderson

posted 9/13/08 @ 2:15 PM EST

Well, all's I got to say is I'm glad I got friends in low places cause I ain't heard none of them denigrate Ms. Palin's chances at political office cause she's a Mom! I've only heard such reference made second and third hand by some news-media-policy-wonks looking to drum up some viewership!

Sorry, ma'am...me and mine don't need no stinking "finger in the air", eh? Ms. Palin will stand or fall on her documented record. From what I've seen so far, it sucks...um, she can shove her "Our involvement in the Iraq conflict is a mission from God"...BUT...I would still maintain some level of respect for her if she had the kahunies to tell any such reporter asking such butt-ignorant questions, a-la-Don Rumsfeld, "That's one ignorant question!"

Robin Anderson

posted 9/13/08 @ 2:50 PM EST

~~~Quote~~~Well, good then, we agree on something else. You are welcome for the patience, Sir Robin. You sound like you have a British flair about you. Irish maybe? Or perhaps just sarcasm to the extreme??

Secularism. Hmmmm...well, I believe in separation of church and state; I don't believe in other people thinking they know how God judges everyone else(He gave us free will and what we do with that is our decision to make) I don't believe in taking the word God out of our money; I don't believe in taking the Ten Commandments out of courthouses; I don't believe in taking the word God out of our Pledge of Allegence; I do believe in silent prayer in schools; I don't believe the atheists have all the rights and Christians or other religions have none; Well, is that secular enough for you? These things are our history and foundation of this country and they do belong in our culture.~~~Quote~~~

Probably more of a Celtic independence, ma'am!

I can only fault the ungodly elitism of the likes of the Brits for their greed and interference in the realm of Ireland or Scotland just as I do the rest of their British Empire...much like the recent Russian actions in Georgia, only worse! Their only downfall was that the initial Americans came from their own loins-ha! Um...the extent to which they screwed up such nations as India and Pakistan is evidenced even today. Grow cotton, indeed!

Um...ma'am? The Bible says explicitely WHAT it is that rules over this Earth in general and it's not God, by His own Word...surprise! The history of the United States of America is anything but "Godly". How many indiginous peoples did Jesus command us to annihilate, eh? Oh, or was it done just in the grand Christian effort to convert a bunch of heathens a-la-Spanish Inquisition or Holy Crusade? What Commandment allowed our Great Nation to evolve on the basis of the slavery that was allowed to existed in this country?

Oh, that's right...the likes of you never believed or supported in such attrocitties. Well, if you ain't gonna speak out against such, your religion ain't worth very much, in my humble opinion! It's not our "Christian" duty to foist democracy on any Islamic peoples!

You and Ms. Palin can just keep it all to yourselves, eh?

Give me a break...

posted 9/13/08 @ 8:19 PM EST

If she was a man with these same problems, there wouldn't be a discussion. Period.

Michelle

posted 9/15/08 @ 9:45 AM EST

Quote: "If she was a man with these same problems, there wouldn't be a discussion. Period."

Exactly.

The True Point

posted 9/15/08 @ 10:55 AM EST

1. Sarah Palin goes into her first major interview looking uninformed at best. One of my favorite moments is when Charles Gibson asked her about the "Bush Doctrine," and she acted like she knew what it was and preceeded to rattle on about a concept she didn't get. Another favorite moment was when Gibson asked about possible invasion of Pakistan (a yes or no question) and she rattles on once again, which causes Gibson to ask the question like two more times. "Is the answer yes or no?" I found that to be amusing.

2. We got a woman who has hired 5 of her high school classmates to high positions in the Alaskan government, and one of the women who was to be over agriculture listed her love of cows as one of the reasons why she should hold the position.

3. There are records of her (and her husband, who is not a government worker) vetoing programs, and attempting to fire multiple people (some of which she actually succeded) who publicly disagreed with her. Then we have the ex-husband of her sister who they are currenly having issues.

Let's bump the whole, pregnant daughter, son with Downs Syndrome, Hockey Mother bit. I am a Independent Voter. It's great that she's a woman, but that is not important. Just like it is not important that Obama is a Black man. The question is who will be the better leader to bring us back from the abyss that Bush created? The issues are more important. Seriously, this editorial has missed the point of the eletion.
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